CH-008 • Triad Chords

[justinguitar]

Questions...

[Quark]

Justin, thanks for the triad lesson, it was great.
Am I correct with the following: Use the  E shape for the minor chords with the root is on the G string, the upside down D shape when the root is on the B string. And a bar shape when the root is on the high E string?

W

[DeadlyChicken]

awesome lessons, really helping me piece together the whole from all the little bits I have picked up along the way.

for example I love the band Carter USM, one of their tunes, Good grief Charlie Brown, uses a standard G C D progressioon i think, and i worked out the little riff by moving a D open chord around, index finger 7th fret, then 12th then 14th.

and now from knowing this has a root on the 2nd string it follows that this is G C D and its awesome to know that you can use the other two shapes also and understanding how it makes sense that these chords include the 1st the 3rd and the 5th.  Awesome, its like you know what things I need to learn to help me understand ... get out of my head man !!! :p

its also helping to learn all the notes without feeling like I am having to learn them all
top and botom are the same abd learned from power chords, 5th you learn from power chords, 4th you can figure out quickly from 6th string octaves, 3rd from 5th string octaves, leaving just 2nd to learn, and using these triads makes that more fun

thanks again justin

as for questions, I tink you cleared most things up for me, but would it be the same thing using the 6th, 5th and 4th strings  in a sort of barre G shape as this also contains the 1st 3rd and 5th.  Although the fingering is a little trickier and it gives a funky bass tone

[bananajoe]

as for questions, I tink you cleared most things up for me, but would it be the same thing using the 6th, 5th and 4th strings  in a sort of barre G shape as this also contains the 1st 3rd and 5th.  Although the fingering is a little trickier and it gives a funky bass tone

Yes, you can do that. Those triads can be played in all string combinations, like 654 - 543 - 321, but their
shape changes everytime. The shape you mention for example, if I understood it correctly, gets used a lot
in the "snow" riff by rhcp.

[DeadlyChicken]

aaah your are correct that shape does, had not thought to check and see what notes they are sweet thanks joe

I have been thinking about this a little more, and realised that the ending licks in the hotel California solo  seem to draw on triads.

the chord progression I follow Bm, F#, A, E, G, D, Em, F#.  and the way I do the triples lick at the end of the solo ( I know they use pull offs and fancy stuff, but it always sounded like a one note per string thing when I heard it, so thats how I do it )

the first one I use ,
1st string 14th fret ( fifth ) F#
2nd string 15th Fret ( flattened third ) D,
3rd string 16th fret ( Root ) B,

So that’s a minor triad using the root on the third string, which makes it a Bm, awesome it seems like that is what is going on.  It does seem to work for most of them, however, there are a couple that are not the triad shapes

Like I think the second one ( over the F# chord ) goes like this
1st string 12th fret E
2nd string 14th Fret C#,
3rd string 15th fret A#,

( no idea but it’s over the F# )

but then the 3rd one slips back into triad country for the A chord
1st string 12th fret ( fifth ) E
2nd string 14th Fret (Third ) C#,
3rd string 14th fret ( root ) A,

there are a couple that use this like  a stretched minor triad with the root on the third string and the 1st string fingering flatted one half step ( like the second lick over the F# I described above )  But then the root does not fit over the chord either ?

Can this fit into triad theory too ? or is this just some scale lick that happens to work and sound a bit like the triads in use in the other bits ??

Thanks


DC

[justinguitar]

Cheers DC - glad to help with the vids

You can use on any strings.

Not sure about snow though... but the RHCP are usually diatonic, so I expect to - work out the notes and see if they all fit into a scale - looks to me like D Major - but the E chord doesn't fit... hmmm

J

[bananajoe]

That 2nd shape over the F# chord is a dominant 7th arpggio, DC. So you have the 3rd, 5th and 7th without
the root note. That's the shape I meant that is played in "Snow", although there it gets played on the 6th and 5th
string and thus becomes a major triad.

[DeadlyChicken]

thanks guys

Makes a lot of sense that does

Snow is such an awesome tune, even playing it slow if you get it smooth it sounds so ... bubbly and lovely One day I might be able to play that song throughout .

[matttherocker]

Might be a stupid question but how many positions are there on each set of 3 strings? For instance I've found one triad shape on the 6th, 5th and 4th strings, but I'm not sure if there are any more

[geordie777]

Thanks Justin class lesson on triads. I knew nothing bout them before I done the lesson but after watching vids managed to work out the minor triads in bout 5 mins so thanks for that.

[justinguitar]

There are 3 shapes on each set of 3 strings. So 12 all together.

Off you go now and study hard

J

[bgrich2003]

This was a really great lesson.  Also learn weezer island in the sun it goes along great with this lesson.

[sshelton961]

I'm very new at playing guitar, your triad lesson helped alot, thanks. I do have one question though...
Using the Root, 3rd, and 5th to create the triad, and using shape one, where the root note is on the little E string:

D Traid is: (Root) D 1st String - (3rd) F# on 3rd String - (5th) A on 2nd String

What I don't understand is the F#, to me the 1,3,5 would be D, F, A
The other D Triads on the 2nd and 3rd strings are like this too.

If someone could give me a grip on why this is it would be very helpful.

[jimiclaptoncarl]

Hi sshelton961, welcome to the forum.

If you want a major chord(or triad) you use 1-3-5 to create it. No matter what key you are in. So to play a D triad you need the 1-3-5 in D major. This is where you have a problem. The key of D major has the notes D-E-F#-G-A-B-C#  If you play D-F-A that would be a D minor chord because you lower the 3rd one fret.

Ask if you don't fully understand. 

jimiclaptoncarl

[sshelton961]

Now it makes total sense, thank you so much. My headache is now gone.

I've been trying to learn as much music theory as possible but with out someone there to ask questions it can get frustrating.

I love this site.