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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2009, 04:58:50 AM » |
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And I know you'll hate me for continually spotting 'errors'...
Not at all dude! Thanks for letting me know, appreciate the heads up! I miss real abvious stuff sometimes! J |
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rhcpmax
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 06:44:26 AM » |
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Hi Justin, sorry to be a pain. Just a quick question.
is it ok to place your third finger in position for a C chord first and then the 2nd finger and first finger after that. When i learnt the d minor chord i noticed i could stretch my fingers a lot further if i placed my fingers in that order (finger 3 on the fingerboard first , then 2nd finger , then 1st finger) rather than (1, 2, 3) i want to have the same finger ordering for the C chord. now that my d minors have improved they can all go down together, as one group, but it made it a lot easier for me to change into that chord with that finger order.
Just wondering if that is a bad habit which i should stop? or it doesn't really matter? :S
Cheers, love ya work.
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MelodyMaker
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 08:00:46 AM » |
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Hi Justin, sorry to be a pain. Just a quick question.
is it ok to place your third finger in position for a C chord first and then the 2nd finger and first finger after that. When i learnt the d minor chord i noticed i could stretch my fingers a lot further if i placed my fingers in that order (finger 3 on the fingerboard first , then 2nd finger , then 1st finger) rather than (1, 2, 3) i want to have the same finger ordering for the C chord. now that my d minors have improved they can all go down together, as one group, but it made it a lot easier for me to change into that chord with that finger order.
Just wondering if that is a bad habit which i should stop? or it doesn't really matter? :S
Cheers, love ya work.
I also put my third finger first when I play the C chord, was also wondering if that's a problem.. |
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justinguitar
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 11:11:43 PM » |
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Fine to put down 3 first for C - it helps to get the stretch between 2 and 3 for some people. So no problem!
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 09:30:49 PM » |
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Hey Justin, Thanks for providing this site! Great work! I have a couple questions on this lesson. When practicing changes on this lesson, from C to G, I noticed my pinky finger hanging out above the first string, 3rd fret while playing the C chord. I noticed that when changing to a G cord if i just press down my pinky (4th finger) right where it was hovering and then just raise my 2nd and 3rd fingers up a string i had a quick easy change to a G. And while playing the G with my 4th finger, i could then hover my unused 1st finger over the 1st fret second string, ready to switch back to C. I'm so much faster with this method, but I'm afraid you have a good reason for teaching it the way you are. I also noticed another really handy benifit to playing G in this wrong way when I went to practice changing from G to E. When playing G the way i described above, switching to E is far easier too, and has has finger 2 as an anchor finger, staying in the same place between chords. Can you explain why i shouldnt be doing this instead, it made the 2 hardest chord changes 2 of the easiest. Look forward to your response... so i can stop building this bad habit!  |
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JoeShmo
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2009, 09:53:34 PM » |
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I too was wondering if it's "cheeting" to experiment with Alternate finger placement while doing the 1 minute drills.
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JoeShmo
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2009, 09:21:26 PM » |
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Greets all,
Another silly question.
I find that it dramatically improves both my change count, and the sound quality of my changes if I set my count down for 1 minute 5 seconds, then do two or three slow changes for the first 5 seconds.
Is that cheating?
Durring the first 5 seconds I concentrate on finger placement, sound quality, and visualizing the change.
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JoeShmo
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 02:17:05 PM » |
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Greets, I know y'all must be tired of hearting from me by now, but I can't help it. I'm just so excited about finaly being able to play something halfway decent on my guitar! Yesterday I was practicing a 3 chord progression, A Emin D, And my 3 year old baby girl actually whent to sleep listening to it  Every day I try something new, and every time I do I come up with more questions. So , here' is the latest. When I do the 1 minute drills I always start with plenty of space between my left hand, and the guitar neck, and the chords sound fine. The problem is that each time I move my fingers, that space seems to shrink a bit. So, by the time I get to the 15th or 20th change I start muting the first string with my palm again. It happens more on A E and C and less on G and D. I think because with G and D the first string is fretted, and that pushes my palm back a bit. I've been trying to correct this by folding my pinky finger underneath the neck when I'm not using it. I'm not pushing against the neck, but putting my pinky there forces me to make space for it. Question: Is this a bad habit? It slows me down a tad, but I think that will improve with practice. Is there any other reason not to do this? Regards, |
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 02:49:19 PM » |
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Hi JoeShmo,
I'm just a beginner myself, and this is just what I think, so take it for what it's worth.
Alternative finger placement:
There's nothing really wrong with that, I'd say, and you should learn them anyway sooner or later, because they will make your playing more flexible. However, keep in mind that Justin has apparantly thought a lot about what he teaches when and why. What may seem the easiest fingering now may become a hinderance in other contexts, if you know what I mean. Personally, I try to stick to what Justin teaches in his lessons for that reason. I figure I can always experiment later on when I'm a little more accomplished and work out my own preferred way of doing things.
Stop watch:
Nothing wrong with setting it a little longer and get warmed up in my book. If you always do it, the count should be consistent and still serve as a good indicator of improvement.
Pinky underneath:
Probably not a good idea to use it, as you should teach your hand the correct way right from the start. Your muscle memory will want to keep doing that even when it's theoretically not needed and it may hinder you with other chords. I'd say it's better to try and keep the distance without it even if you'll get a few chord changes less. I think you'll benefit from that in the long run.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 06:34:38 PM » |
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I don't think the pinky underneath is much of a good idea since for chords that need the pinky might take you a little longer for you to place it, but I don't know. Like you, I am just a beginner excited to be playing "something", can't really say I play the guitar since I can't play any songs  Keep on practicing  |
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 07:12:38 PM » |
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" can't really say I play the guitar since I can't play any songs " Learn 3 little birds. It takes you 5 minutes to learn the chord progression and the changes are so mild its easy to play along with the video. Then you can say you know a song. I found "Hey ya" to be an excellant second song to learn. It sounds decent when using the strumming pattern, even at half speed. Learn those 2 and then you can say you play Regards, |
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2009, 03:56:56 PM » |
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Hey justin, I broke my left ring finger 5 years ago, and the finger is all weird and such, so for the A chord, i have to bar it for now, until the finger eventually works its self in. Is that a bad thing?
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Estel
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2009, 03:03:33 AM » |
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Hey Guys,
Yep, these changes are a fair test. I think there are 2 types of players in this game; those that follow the 1, 2, 3, sequence (for finger placement) & those who are 3,2,1, orientated. I am of the later tribe but I can see when changing back to the C chord, from say A or Am, how handy it is to develop that stretch into the 3rd finger.
Having that callous on the 2nd finger isn't a big help either because it's hard, smooth & has that "string line" running thru it which makes it want to follow the stretching 3rd finger instead of anchoring.
Oh well, back to the practice schedule. Thanks for the guidance J.
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Estel
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2009, 02:00:43 AM » |
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Boy, I really am sucking with these changes at the moment. I don't think it's because I'm from the 3, 2, 1, (finger placement tribe), just the whole co-ordination, stretch the finger thing. I seriously believe my third finger has a "separation problem" with my second finger. Mind you, the callous on my second finger does make it a bit hard to anchor on a smooth string
Are there any words of encouragement out there?
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